diff --git a/RELEASES.md b/RELEASES.md
index 90d99c0015..529bcb6b09 100644
--- a/RELEASES.md
+++ b/RELEASES.md
@@ -6,7 +6,8 @@ Version 0.10.1 (2025-09-08)
   * World Model: trained on 4x the number of segments
   * Driving Vision Model: trained on 4x the number of segments
 * Record driving feedback using LKAS button
-* Honda City 2023 support thanks to drFritz!
+* Honda City 2023 support thanks to vanillagorillaa and drFritz!
+* Honda Odyssey 2021-25 support thanks to vanillagorillaa and MVL!
 
 Version 0.10.0 (2025-08-05)
 ========================
diff --git a/docs/CARS.md b/docs/CARS.md
index 7269f25737..4c0569a1b8 100644
--- a/docs/CARS.md
+++ b/docs/CARS.md
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 A supported vehicle is one that just works when you install a comma device. All supported cars provide a better experience than any stock system. Supported vehicles reference the US market unless otherwise specified.
 
-# 321 Supported Cars
+# 322 Supported Cars
 
 |Make|Model|Supported Package|ACC|No ACC accel below|No ALC below|Steering Torque|Resume from stop|<a href="##"><img width=2000></a>Hardware Needed<br>&nbsp;|Video|Setup Video|
 |---|---|---|:---:|:---:|:---:|:---:|:---:|:---:|:---:|:---:|
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ A supported vehicle is one that just works when you install a comma device. All
 |Honda|Civic Hatchback 2017-18|Honda Sensing|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|12 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback 2017-18">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Civic Hatchback 2019-21|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|12 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback 2019-21">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Civic Hatchback 2022-24|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch B connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback 2022-24">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|<a href="https://youtu.be/ytiOT5lcp6Q" target="_blank"><img height="18px" src="assets/icon-youtube.svg"></img></a>||
-|Honda|Civic Hatchback Hybrid 2025|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch B connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback Hybrid 2025">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Honda|Civic Hatchback Hybrid 2025-26|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch B connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback Hybrid 2025-26">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Civic Hatchback Hybrid (Europe only) 2023|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch B connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hatchback Hybrid (Europe only) 2023">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Civic Hybrid 2025|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch B connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Civic Hybrid 2025">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|CR-V 2015-16|Touring Trim|openpilot|26 mph|12 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Nidec connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda CR-V 2015-16">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
@@ -99,6 +99,7 @@ A supported vehicle is one that just works when you install a comma device. All
 |Honda|Insight 2019-22|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|3 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Insight 2019-22">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Inspire 2018|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|3 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Inspire 2018">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Odyssey 2018-20|Honda Sensing|openpilot|26 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Nidec connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Odyssey 2018-20">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Honda|Odyssey 2021-25|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|43 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Odyssey 2021-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Passport 2019-25|All|openpilot|26 mph|12 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Nidec connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Passport 2019-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Pilot 2016-22|Honda Sensing|openpilot|26 mph|12 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Nidec connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Pilot 2016-22">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Honda|Pilot 2023-25|All|openpilot|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Honda Bosch C connector<br>- 1 angled mount (8 degrees)<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Honda Pilot 2023-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
@@ -247,7 +248,7 @@ A supported vehicle is one that just works when you install a comma device. All
 |Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
-|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW4) 2024[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW4) 2024">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Alphard 2019-20|All|openpilot|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Alphard 2019-20">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Alphard Hybrid 2021|All|openpilot|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Alphard Hybrid 2021">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Avalon 2016|Toyota Safety Sense P|openpilot available[<sup>2</sup>](#footnotes)|19 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Avalon 2016">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
diff --git a/opendbc_repo b/opendbc_repo
index 7afc25d8d4..435ef8203b 160000
--- a/opendbc_repo
+++ b/opendbc_repo
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 7afc25d8d4096bb31e25c0b7ae0b961ea05f5394
+Subproject commit 435ef8203be39c225e95ba8b10b7db7272b99fcc
diff --git a/tools/sim/lib/simulated_car.py b/tools/sim/lib/simulated_car.py
index 2681b26904..68ff3050db 100644
--- a/tools/sim/lib/simulated_car.py
+++ b/tools/sim/lib/simulated_car.py
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ from openpilot.tools.sim.lib.common import SimulatorState
 
 class SimulatedCar:
   """Simulates a honda civic 2022 (panda state + can messages) to OpenPilot"""
-  packer = CANPacker("honda_civic_ex_2022_can_generated")
+  packer = CANPacker("honda_bosch_radarless_generated")
 
   def __init__(self):
     self.pm = messaging.PubMaster(['can', 'pandaStates'])
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ class SimulatedCar:
 
   @staticmethod
   def get_car_can_parser():
-    dbc_f = 'honda_civic_ex_2022_can_generated'
+    dbc_f = 'honda_bosch_radarless_generated'
     checks = []
     return CANParser(dbc_f, checks, 0)