diff --git a/common/params.cc b/common/params.cc
index 6722dbb3eb..9212a6edfc 100644
--- a/common/params.cc
+++ b/common/params.cc
@@ -181,7 +181,6 @@ std::unordered_map<std::string, uint32_t> keys = {
     {"Offroad_UpdateFailed", CLEAR_ON_MANAGER_START},
     {"OpenpilotEnabledToggle", PERSISTENT},
     {"PandaHeartbeatLost", CLEAR_ON_MANAGER_START | CLEAR_ON_OFFROAD_TRANSITION},
-    {"PandaLogState", PERSISTENT},
     {"PandaSignatures", CLEAR_ON_MANAGER_START},
     {"Passive", PERSISTENT},
     {"PrimeType", PERSISTENT},
diff --git a/panda b/panda
index 62db60595b..6bf6ba773e 160000
--- a/panda
+++ b/panda
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 62db60595bb5129cc2f295fdc42f2cda473777fd
+Subproject commit 6bf6ba773ea4174c702ac9c4af4e8a6fd3cef655
diff --git a/selfdrive/boardd/pandad.py b/selfdrive/boardd/pandad.py
index 7f84e44da6..433de70d43 100755
--- a/selfdrive/boardd/pandad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/boardd/pandad.py
@@ -3,7 +3,6 @@
 import os
 import usb1
 import time
-import json
 import subprocess
 from typing import List, NoReturn
 from functools import cmp_to_key
@@ -24,51 +23,6 @@ def get_expected_signature(panda: Panda) -> bytes:
     cloudlog.exception("Error computing expected signature")
     return b""
 
-def read_panda_logs(panda: Panda) -> None:
-  """
-    Forward panda logs to the cloud
-  """
-
-  params = Params()
-  serial = panda.get_usb_serial()
-
-  log_state = {}
-  try:
-    ls = params.get("PandaLogState")
-    if ls is not None:
-      l = json.loads(ls)
-      for k, v in l.items():
-        if isinstance(k, str) and isinstance(v, int):
-          log_state[k] = v
-  except (TypeError, json.JSONDecodeError):
-    cloudlog.exception("failed to parse PandaLogState")
-
-  try:
-    if serial in log_state:
-      logs = panda.get_logs(last_id=log_state[serial])
-    else:
-      logs = panda.get_logs(get_all=True)
-
-    # truncate logs to 100 entries if needed
-    MAX_LOGS = 100
-    if len(logs) > MAX_LOGS:
-      cloudlog.warning(f"Panda {serial} has {len(logs)} logs, truncating to {MAX_LOGS}")
-      logs = logs[-MAX_LOGS:]
-
-    # update log state
-    if len(logs) > 0:
-      log_state[serial] = logs[-1]["id"]
-
-    for log in logs:
-      if log['timestamp'] is not None:
-        log['timestamp'] = log['timestamp'].isoformat()
-      cloudlog.event("panda_log", **log, serial=serial)
-
-    params.put("PandaLogState", json.dumps(log_state))
-  except Exception:
-    cloudlog.exception(f"Error getting logs for panda {serial}")
-
-
 def flash_panda(panda_serial: str) -> Panda:
   try:
     panda = Panda(panda_serial)
@@ -191,8 +145,6 @@ def main() -> NoReturn:
           params.put_bool("PandaHeartbeatLost", True)
           cloudlog.event("heartbeat lost", deviceState=health, serial=panda.get_usb_serial())
 
-        read_panda_logs(panda)
-
         if first_run:
           if panda.is_internal():
             # update time from RTC
diff --git a/selfdrive/boardd/tests/test_pandad.py b/selfdrive/boardd/tests/test_pandad.py
index 30a4a9b868..68747e1008 100755
--- a/selfdrive/boardd/tests/test_pandad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/boardd/tests/test_pandad.py
@@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ import unittest
 import cereal.messaging as messaging
 from cereal import log
 from openpilot.common.gpio import gpio_set, gpio_init
-from openpilot.common.params import Params
 from panda import Panda, PandaDFU, PandaProtocolMismatch
 from openpilot.selfdrive.test.helpers import phone_only
 from openpilot.selfdrive.manager.process_config import managed_processes
@@ -18,10 +17,6 @@ HERE = os.path.dirname(os.path.realpath(__file__))
 
 class TestPandad(unittest.TestCase):
 
-  def setUp(self):
-    self.params = Params()
-    self.start_log_state = self.params.get("PandaLogState")
-
   def tearDown(self):
     managed_processes['pandad'].stop()
 
@@ -39,10 +34,6 @@ class TestPandad(unittest.TestCase):
     if sm['peripheralState'].pandaType == log.PandaState.PandaType.unknown:
       raise Exception("boardd failed to start")
 
-    # simple check that we did something with the panda logs
-    cur_log_state = self.params.get("PandaLogState")
-    assert cur_log_state != self.start_log_state
-
   def _go_to_dfu(self):
     HARDWARE.recover_internal_panda()
     assert Panda.wait_for_dfu(None, 10)