diff --git a/selfdrive/ui/qt/maps/map.cc b/selfdrive/ui/qt/maps/map.cc
index 2a257ab98f..22e85adfb6 100644
--- a/selfdrive/ui/qt/maps/map.cc
+++ b/selfdrive/ui/qt/maps/map.cc
@@ -237,13 +237,18 @@ void MapWindow::updateState(const UIState &s) {
     // an invalid navInstruction packet with a nav destination is only possible if:
     // - API exception/no internet
     // - route response is empty
-    auto dest = coordinate_from_param("NavDestination");
-    routing_problem = !sm.valid("navInstruction") && dest.has_value();
+
+    //this kind of works, but we need an additional check somewhere to monitor the param
+//    auto dest = coordinate_from_param("NavDestination");
+//    routing_problem = !sm.valid("navInstruction") && dest.has_value();
 
     if (sm.valid("navInstruction")) {
       auto i = sm["navInstruction"].getNavInstruction();
       map_eta->updateETA(i.getTimeRemaining(), i.getTimeRemainingTypical(), i.getDistanceRemaining());
 
+//      auto dest = coordinate_from_param("NavDestination");
+      routing_problem = false;
+
       if (locationd_valid) {
         m_map->setPitch(MAX_PITCH); // TODO: smooth pitching based on maneuver distance
         map_instructions->updateInstructions(i);
@@ -260,6 +265,11 @@ void MapWindow::updateState(const UIState &s) {
   if (sm.rcv_frame("navRoute") != route_rcv_frame) {
     qWarning() << "Updating navLayer with new route";
     auto route = sm["navRoute"].getNavRoute();
+    auto dest = coordinate_from_param("NavDestination");
+    if (route.getCoordinates().size() == 0 && dest.has_value()) {
+      routing_problem = true;
+    }
+
     auto route_points = capnp_coordinate_list_to_collection(route.getCoordinates());
     QMapbox::Feature feature(QMapbox::Feature::LineStringType, route_points, {}, {});
     QVariantMap navSource;