diff --git a/selfdrive/ui/ui.cc b/selfdrive/ui/ui.cc
index 08b929fb61..8240372dea 100644
--- a/selfdrive/ui/ui.cc
+++ b/selfdrive/ui/ui.cc
@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ void ui_update(UIState *s) {
   }
 
   // Handle controls/fcamera timeout
-  if (s->started && !s->scene.frontview && ((s->sm)->frame - s->started_frame) > 5*UI_FREQ) {
+  if (s->started && !s->scene.frontview && ((s->sm)->frame - s->started_frame) > 10*UI_FREQ) {
     if ((s->sm)->rcv_frame("controlsState") < s->started_frame) {
       // car is started, but controlsState hasn't been seen at all
       s->scene.alert_text1 = "openpilot Unavailable";