diff --git a/system/hardware/base.py b/system/hardware/base.py
index 90b42b2f1f..77369124c9 100644
--- a/system/hardware/base.py
+++ b/system/hardware/base.py
@@ -1,10 +1,23 @@
 import os
 from abc import abstractmethod, ABC
 from dataclasses import dataclass, fields
-
-from cereal import log
-
-NetworkType = log.DeviceState.NetworkType
+from enum import IntEnum
+
+class NetworkType(IntEnum):
+  none = 0
+  wifi = 1
+  cell2G = 2
+  cell3G = 3
+  cell4G = 4
+  cell5G = 5
+  ethernet = 6
+
+class NetworkStrength(IntEnum):
+  unknown = 0
+  poor = 1
+  moderate = 2
+  good = 3
+  great = 4
 
 @dataclass
 class ThermalZone:
diff --git a/system/hardware/pc/hardware.py b/system/hardware/pc/hardware.py
index 017a449c90..b287dc58aa 100644
--- a/system/hardware/pc/hardware.py
+++ b/system/hardware/pc/hardware.py
@@ -1,10 +1,6 @@
 import random
 
-from cereal import log
-from openpilot.system.hardware.base import HardwareBase
-
-NetworkType = log.DeviceState.NetworkType
-NetworkStrength = log.DeviceState.NetworkStrength
+from openpilot.system.hardware.base import HardwareBase, NetworkStrength, NetworkType
 
 
 class Pc(HardwareBase):
diff --git a/system/hardware/tici/hardware.py b/system/hardware/tici/hardware.py
index 5a8e41b51f..cc82ab4123 100644
--- a/system/hardware/tici/hardware.py
+++ b/system/hardware/tici/hardware.py
@@ -8,9 +8,8 @@ from enum import IntEnum
 from functools import cached_property, lru_cache
 from pathlib import Path
 
-from cereal import log
 from openpilot.common.gpio import gpio_set, gpio_init, get_irqs_for_action
-from openpilot.system.hardware.base import HardwareBase, ThermalConfig, ThermalZone
+from openpilot.system.hardware.base import HardwareBase, NetworkStrength, NetworkType, ThermalConfig, ThermalZone
 from openpilot.system.hardware.tici import iwlist
 from openpilot.system.hardware.tici.pins import GPIO
 from openpilot.system.hardware.tici.amplifier import Amplifier
@@ -53,9 +52,6 @@ class NMMetered(IntEnum):
 TIMEOUT = 0.1
 REFRESH_RATE_MS = 1000
 
-NetworkType = log.DeviceState.NetworkType
-NetworkStrength = log.DeviceState.NetworkStrength
-
 # https://developer.gnome.org/ModemManager/unstable/ModemManager-Flags-and-Enumerations.html#MMModemAccessTechnology
 MM_MODEM_ACCESS_TECHNOLOGY_UMTS = 1 << 5
 MM_MODEM_ACCESS_TECHNOLOGY_LTE = 1 << 14