diff --git a/selfdrive/car/tests/test_fw_fingerprint.py b/selfdrive/car/tests/test_fw_fingerprint.py
index eaef1677e7..4a17fc34ec 100755
--- a/selfdrive/car/tests/test_fw_fingerprint.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/tests/test_fw_fingerprint.py
@@ -236,7 +236,7 @@ class TestFwFingerprintTiming(unittest.TestCase):
 
   def test_startup_timing(self):
     # Tests worse-case VIN query time and typical present ECU query time
-    vin_ref_times = {'worst': 1.2, 'best': 0.6}  # best assumes we go through all queries to get a match
+    vin_ref_times = {'worst': 1.4, 'best': 0.7}  # best assumes we go through all queries to get a match
     present_ecu_ref_time = 0.75
 
     def fake_get_ecu_addrs(*_, timeout):
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/vin.py b/selfdrive/car/vin.py
index e668c35f7d..e8c9c58042 100755
--- a/selfdrive/car/vin.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/vin.py
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ def get_vin(logcan, sendcan, buses, timeout=0.1, retry=2, debug=False):
         (StdQueries.OBD_VIN_REQUEST, StdQueries.OBD_VIN_RESPONSE, (0, 1), STANDARD_VIN_ADDRS, FUNCTIONAL_ADDRS, 0x8),
         (StdQueries.GM_VIN_REQUEST, StdQueries.GM_VIN_RESPONSE, (0,), [0x24b], None, 0x400),  # Bolt fwdCamera
         (StdQueries.KWP_VIN_REQUEST, StdQueries.KWP_VIN_RESPONSE, (0,), [0x797], None, 0x3),  # Nissan Leaf VCM
+        (StdQueries.UDS_VIN_REQUEST, StdQueries.UDS_VIN_RESPONSE, (0,), [0x74f], None, 0x6a),  # Volkswagen fwdCamera
       ):
         if bus not in valid_buses:
           continue