diff --git a/panda b/panda
index 9bcd9b9a24..3334dc21f5 160000
--- a/panda
+++ b/panda
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 9bcd9b9a24149b241992f26caf9920d427ee609d
+Subproject commit 3334dc21f5c55007c5a754dfd8ee5d642be3e2bb
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/isotp_parallel_query.py b/selfdrive/car/isotp_parallel_query.py
index 94c8d052b3..4b4bdcc0ca 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/isotp_parallel_query.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/isotp_parallel_query.py
@@ -68,7 +68,10 @@ class IsoTpParallelQuery:
                            self.bus, sub_addr=sub_addr, debug=self.debug)
 
     max_len = 8 if sub_addr is None else 7
-    return IsoTpMessage(can_client, timeout=0, max_len=max_len, debug=self.debug)
+    # uses iso-tp frame separation time of 10 ms
+    # TODO: use single_frame_mode so ECUs can send as fast as they want,
+    # as well as reduces chances we process messages from previous queries
+    return IsoTpMessage(can_client, timeout=0, separation_time=0.01, debug=self.debug, max_len=max_len)
 
   def get_data(self, timeout, total_timeout=60.):
     self._drain_rx()