diff --git a/cereal/services.py b/cereal/services.py
index aad83177bb..47a4ffd6a0 100755
--- a/cereal/services.py
+++ b/cereal/services.py
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ _services: dict[str, tuple] = {
   "pandaStates": (True, 10., 1),
   "peripheralState": (True, 2., 1),
   "radarState": (True, 20., 5),
-  "roadEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 1),
+  "roadEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 20),
   "liveTracks": (True, 20.),
   "sendcan": (True, 100., 139),
   "logMessage": (True, 0.),
@@ -58,10 +58,10 @@ _services: dict[str, tuple] = {
   "carParams": (True, 0.02, 1),
   "roadCameraState": (True, 20., 20),
   "driverCameraState": (True, 20., 20),
-  "driverEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 1),
+  "driverEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 20),
   "driverStateV2": (True, 20., 10),
   "driverMonitoringState": (True, 20., 10),
-  "wideRoadEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 1),
+  "wideRoadEncodeIdx": (False, 20., 20),
   "wideRoadCameraState": (True, 20., 20),
   "drivingModelData": (True, 20., 10),
   "modelV2": (True, 20.),