diff --git a/panda b/panda
index 7d27eb10fb..b29ae782f7 160000
--- a/panda
+++ b/panda
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 7d27eb10fb32095e73f60c59a123cae08cc53719
+Subproject commit b29ae782f78be87e7ac1414773c6015b14eea728
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/chrysler/interface.py b/selfdrive/car/chrysler/interface.py
index 657b018c00..4b22c478a7 100755
--- a/selfdrive/car/chrysler/interface.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/chrysler/interface.py
@@ -23,6 +23,9 @@ class CarInterface(CarInterfaceBase):
     elif candidate in RAM_DT:
       ret.safetyConfigs[0].safetyParam |= Panda.FLAG_CHRYSLER_RAM_DT
 
+    if candidate in CHRYSLER_OLD_TUNING_BLACKLIST:
+      ret.safetyConfigs[0].safetyParam |= Panda.FLAG_CHRYSLER_LOWER_RATE
+
     ret.minSteerSpeed = 3.8  # m/s
     CarInterfaceBase.configure_torque_tune(candidate, ret.lateralTuning)
     if candidate not in RAM_CARS: