diff --git a/selfdrive/car/honda/hondacan.py b/selfdrive/car/honda/hondacan.py
index 87f8e6c5de..6861198158 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/honda/hondacan.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/honda/hondacan.py
@@ -13,7 +13,8 @@ def get_pt_bus(car_fingerprint):
 
 
 def get_lkas_cmd_bus(car_fingerprint, radar_disabled=False):
-  if radar_disabled:
+  no_radar = car_fingerprint in HONDA_BOSCH_RADARLESS
+  if radar_disabled or no_radar:
     # when radar is disabled, steering commands are sent directly to powertrain bus
     return get_pt_bus(car_fingerprint)
   # normally steering commands are sent to radar, which forwards them to powertrain bus
@@ -104,7 +105,7 @@ def create_bosch_supplemental_1(packer, car_fingerprint):
 def create_ui_commands(packer, CP, enabled, pcm_speed, hud, is_metric, acc_hud, lkas_hud):
   commands = []
   bus_pt = get_pt_bus(CP.carFingerprint)
-  radar_disabled = CP.carFingerprint in HONDA_BOSCH and CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl
+  radar_disabled = CP.carFingerprint in (HONDA_BOSCH - HONDA_BOSCH_RADARLESS) and CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl
   bus_lkas = get_lkas_cmd_bus(CP.carFingerprint, radar_disabled)
 
   if CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl:
@@ -153,7 +154,7 @@ def create_ui_commands(packer, CP, enabled, pcm_speed, hud, is_metric, acc_hud,
   else:
     commands.append(packer.make_can_msg('LKAS_HUD', bus_lkas, lkas_hud_values))
 
-  if radar_disabled and CP.carFingerprint in HONDA_BOSCH:
+  if radar_disabled:
     radar_hud_values = {
       'CMBS_OFF': 0x01,
       'SET_TO_1': 0x01,