diff --git a/docs/CARS.md b/docs/CARS.md
index bd6a9c920c..7d3f7a9442 100644
--- a/docs/CARS.md
+++ b/docs/CARS.md
@@ -246,10 +246,10 @@ A supported vehicle is one that just works when you install a comma device. All
 |Škoda|Octavia Scout 2017-19[<sup>15</sup>](#footnotes)|Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) & Lane Assist|openpilot available[<sup>1,16</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 VW J533 connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Škoda Octavia Scout 2017-19">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Škoda|Scala 2020-23[<sup>15</sup>](#footnotes)|Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) & Lane Assist|openpilot available[<sup>1,16</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 VW J533 connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Škoda Scala 2020-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>[<sup>17</sup>](#footnotes)|||
 |Škoda|Superb 2015-22[<sup>15</sup>](#footnotes)|Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) & Lane Assist|openpilot available[<sup>1,16</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 VW J533 connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Škoda Superb 2015-22">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
-|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
-|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
-|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
-|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW3) 2019-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model 3 (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla A connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW3) 2020-23">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
+|Tesla[<sup>11</sup>](#footnotes)|Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25[<sup>10</sup>](#footnotes)|All|openpilot available[<sup>1</sup>](#footnotes)|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Tesla B connector<br>- 1 USB-C coupler<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 long OBD-C cable (9.5 ft)<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Tesla Model Y (with HW4) 2024-25">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Alphard 2019-20|All|openpilot|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Alphard 2019-20">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Alphard Hybrid 2021|All|openpilot|0 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Alphard Hybrid 2021">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
 |Toyota|Avalon 2016|Toyota Safety Sense P|openpilot available[<sup>2</sup>](#footnotes)|19 mph|0 mph|[![star](assets/icon-star-full.svg)](##)|[![star](assets/icon-star-empty.svg)](##)|<details><summary>Parts</summary><sub>- 1 Toyota A connector<br>- 1 comma 3X<br>- 1 comma power v3<br>- 1 harness box<br>- 1 mount<br>- 1 right angle OBD-C cable (1.5 ft)<br><a href="https://comma.ai/shop/comma-3x?harness=Toyota Avalon 2016">Buy Here</a></sub></details>|||
diff --git a/msgq_repo b/msgq_repo
index 5483a02de3..89096d90d2 160000
--- a/msgq_repo
+++ b/msgq_repo
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 5483a02de303d40cb2632d59f3f3a54dabfb5965
+Subproject commit 89096d90d2f0f71be63a4af0152fe3b2aa55cf9d
diff --git a/opendbc_repo b/opendbc_repo
index 4170d7d876..c2ba07083c 160000
--- a/opendbc_repo
+++ b/opendbc_repo
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 4170d7d876a87904dab4b351aa8139ec3d400430
+Subproject commit c2ba07083c1cfbb0c5b86469bd7b87090291a0d3
diff --git a/panda b/panda
index 819fa5854e..a2064b86f3 160000
--- a/panda
+++ b/panda
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 819fa5854e2e75da7f982f7d06be69c61793d6e1
+Subproject commit a2064b86f3c9908883033a953503f150cedacbc7
diff --git a/selfdrive/pandad/pandad.cc b/selfdrive/pandad/pandad.cc
index 8289df5491..2931eb4acd 100644
--- a/selfdrive/pandad/pandad.cc
+++ b/selfdrive/pandad/pandad.cc
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ Panda *connect(std::string serial="", uint32_t index=0) {
   }
   //panda->enable_deepsleep();
 
-  for (int i = 0; i < PANDA_BUS_CNT; i++) {
+  for (int i = 0; i < PANDA_CAN_CNT; i++) {
     panda->set_can_fd_auto(i, true);
   }
 
diff --git a/selfdrive/pandad/tests/test_pandad.py b/selfdrive/pandad/tests/test_pandad.py
index 6a7359fd85..88d3939a6a 100644
--- a/selfdrive/pandad/tests/test_pandad.py
+++ b/selfdrive/pandad/tests/test_pandad.py
@@ -5,8 +5,7 @@ import time
 import cereal.messaging as messaging
 from cereal import log
 from openpilot.common.gpio import gpio_set, gpio_init
-from panda import Panda, PandaDFU, PandaProtocolMismatch
-from openpilot.common.retry import retry
+from panda import Panda, PandaDFU
 from openpilot.system.manager.process_config import managed_processes
 from openpilot.system.hardware import HARDWARE
 from openpilot.system.hardware.tici.pins import GPIO
@@ -50,8 +49,7 @@ class TestPandad:
     assert not Panda.wait_for_dfu(None, 3)
     assert not Panda.wait_for_panda(None, 3)
 
-  @retry(attempts=3)
-  def _flash_bootstub_and_test(self, fn, expect_mismatch=False):
+  def _flash_bootstub(self, fn):
     self._go_to_dfu()
     pd = PandaDFU(None)
     if fn is None:
@@ -61,16 +59,6 @@ class TestPandad:
     pd.reset()
     HARDWARE.reset_internal_panda()
 
-    assert Panda.wait_for_panda(None, 10)
-    if expect_mismatch:
-      with pytest.raises(PandaProtocolMismatch):
-        Panda()
-    else:
-      with Panda() as p:
-        assert p.bootstub
-
-    self._run_test(45)
-
   def test_in_dfu(self):
     HARDWARE.recover_internal_panda()
     self._run_test(60)
@@ -106,13 +94,14 @@ class TestPandad:
     print("startup times", ts, sum(ts) / len(ts))
     assert 0.1 < (sum(ts)/len(ts)) < 0.7
 
-  def test_protocol_version_check(self):
-    # flash old fw
-    fn = os.path.join(HERE, "bootstub.panda_h7_spiv0.bin")
-    self._flash_bootstub_and_test(fn, expect_mismatch=True)
+  def test_old_spi_protocol(self):
+    # flash firmware with old SPI protocol
+    self._flash_bootstub(os.path.join(HERE, "bootstub.panda_h7_spiv0.bin"))
+    self._run_test(45)
 
   def test_release_to_devel_bootstub(self):
-    self._flash_bootstub_and_test(None)
+    self._flash_bootstub(None)
+    self._run_test(45)
 
   def test_recover_from_bad_bootstub(self):
     self._go_to_dfu()